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[edit] Please put your new messages at the bottom of this page and I will get back to you promptly.
[edit] Journal article of the week?
Hi Joe. I recently read an excellent article that I think you might enjoy. The authors basically argue that psychologists don't put enough emphasis on rigorous conceptual analysis, (with an inordinate amount of methodological emphasis).
- Machado, A., Lourenco, O., & Silva, F. J. (2000). Facts, concepts, and theories: The shape of psychology's epistemic triangle. Behavior and Philosophy, 28, 1-40.
I had an idea. Remember when we first started this, we attempted to have an article of the month or week? How about starting a journal article of the week? Perhaps put the abstract on the Main Page with a link to the full article? Jaywin 16:58, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- I like that idea...I'd be glad to help with that. Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 17:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes excelllent. Lets do it . The challenge will be to keep it going. Set up a linked nomination page to see if we can get others interested to suggest other candidates. Dr Joe Kiff 19:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm glad to see you guys like the idea. Check out Psychology Wiki:Featured journal article nominations. We can discuss how to go about this on that page's discussion page if you'd like. Jaywin 19:35, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes excelllent. Lets do it . The challenge will be to keep it going. Set up a linked nomination page to see if we can get others interested to suggest other candidates. Dr Joe Kiff 19:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Vasoactive intestinal peptide......
hi...id like to know your source for saying that Vasoactive intestinal peptide is produced in the pancreas..im am studying human physiology and apparently it seems unclear where it is produced...if it is the small intestine or the pancreas...please let me know as i can then present this information to my mentors and get clarity on this. thank you. -joseph
- Thanks for the question. I have done a bit of work on the article. Updated it from WP and added in a section of references on secretion. If you could add to that section when you have sorted out the information we would be most grateful. Dr Joe Kiff 15:27, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Message for Melanie
I did see what you wrote and appreciated your comments. You did the right thing taking it down though - I am so easily embarrassed by praise!!!. Perhaps we can talk about it when we meet next and discuss ways you might help with the site. Dr Joe Kiff 00:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Fresh eyes here!
Hi Joe. Thanks for the message :-)
I left a comment at Psychology Wiki talk:Featured journal article nominations if you want to check it out.
Also, I noticed you were making some animal categories. I'll try to do a little research and see if I can get a category taxonomy that corresponds with scientific classification. Jaywin 00:36, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- I left another comment at the featured article discussion. And I agree that the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature sounds like the way to go for animal classification. Also, for the animal pages, I've been using the comparative psychology browser template for the top of the page: {{CompPsy}}...that one seemed most appropriate for those pages to me. And the banner page is at MediaWiki:Sitenotice. Jaywin 13:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Main Page sandbox
- Check out User:Jaywin/Main page. See what you think; tweak it if necessary. :-) Jaywin 21:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] May Featured Article
Hi Joe. Just reminding you that May will be here soon. We have to decide on a Featured Journal Article. I've nominated one already. Would you like to vote for that one, or nominate a different one? Jaywin 10:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Double Bind in the Interaction
I read the information you listed. Still can't figure out how to change the red letters (scarlet letters?) which cause a section to disappear, following the words "...what to the Newtonian looks like chaos" (level 2 sections: History, Complexity in Communication and the first paragraph of A Classical Example are left out). Also lacking in the Psychology Wiki are the notes (and references?) at the bottom of the page from Wikipedia Double Bind. Is it that the lack of a section of notes to refer to is the cause of the difficulty? --Margaret9mary 02:11, 29 May 2009 (UTC) The scarlet letters say: "Cite error: closing </ref> missing for <ref> tag. --~~~~ :Thank you for correcting that mix-up. I figured it was a result of computer syntax that only an insider would know.--~~~~
[edit] Block of Joeyaa
Hello there. I'm a fellow admin of Joeyaa on Avatar Wiki. Joey is one of the biggest anti-vandalism volunteers on Wikia, and his three edits here are all related to this. He does not engage in sockpuppetry, which I believe to be the reason you blocked him. I believe that he has sent you an email requesting that he be unblocked, and I recommend this course of action. Thanks. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 07:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Joe, if you want me to look into this, just provide me with that user's user name and I will take care of it. Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 07:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! ~Joey~ ^Talk^ 14:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Art thanks for the offer but it was just as easy for me to do it as I had to use the blocklog to find out the name - it was my mistake - but I could remember the circumstances so just unblocked him. Cheers. Dr Joe Kiff 14:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Glad it worked out. Take care. Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 23:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! ~Joey~ ^Talk^ 14:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Joe, if you want me to look into this, just provide me with that user's user name and I will take care of it. Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 07:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Sahaj Marg
Hi Joe
Can you please look at page Sahaj Marg. It's got a category of "cult" attached at the bottom. This page was probably copied off a highly POV version (long gone now) from Wikipedia.
Can you please take the cult category off this page?
Thanks!
- This has now been done.
[edit] Torture, Psychology, and the APA
Here's a good article at The Huffington Post entitled, Torture, Psychology, and Daniel Inouye: The True Story Behind Psychology's Role in Torture. This might even make for a good article on the Main Page or even the header. Jaywin 12:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- As this is an academic site I feel we ought to stick to professional sources where there is controversy. As an interim measure I have put a link to the article on the torture page, along with a link to the APA statement. In the long run I feel the substantive points made by Bryant (eg the role of psychologists in torure etc) should be backed up by more suitable discussion and references. I will copy this discussion across to the talk page there to set up the discussion. Dr Joe Kiff 00:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] A Living Process
I can't thank you enough for leaving the link to the Huffington Post article on The True Story Behind Psychology's Role in Torture. Please keep it there on your talk page! Objectivity is achieved through the prolonged accumulation of anecdotal evidence and a seeking of consensus, and this article--and the comments it is evoking--is part of that extended process.
As a parallel example, consider the subject of child molestation. It was addressed by Freud in his 1896 Aetiology of Hysteria; he was threatened with ostracization by the medical community of Vienna until he recanted; he then created the "seduction theory" (which somehow managed to keep alive the subject of unhealthy sexuality--by projecting it on to the victims and calling it a fantasy). The reality of child molestation only resurfaced and broke through into public awareness in the 1970s as a result of discussion groups in the women's lib movement (for which I'm profoundly grateful, even if I think they went too far on other issues).
Objectivity can't go so far that it denies our humanity. The issue of addressing torture is a very important step towards the greater health of the field of psychology. ("Physician, heal thyself" (first and then you will see better how to heal your patients) --Margaret9mary 00:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Religion and masturbation
What was wrong with the second version of the article? How do I deal with the subject here? Proxima Centauri 12:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I'd be pleased if you could find me any good sources as I fear the religious groups have influenced Google and I haven't found any.
Masturbation: All points of view Is this good enough? I don't want to waste more time writing stuff that gets deleted. Proxima Centauri 16:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- It was the lack of references that I was concerned about. I have listed references on the Masturbation article but on a quick glance there doesnt seem to be anything there to help. If I find anything I will list them Dr Joe Kiff 09:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Heh. If you will tighten the standards, why not make something about almost 14.000 articles copied from Wikipedia? (http://psychology.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:EnWP&1000 I counted 14 pages of 1000 each) What is the point of this wiki if most content comes from Wikipedia? Is that "professional"? I did not know it took professionals just to copy from Wikipedia, and the list is a growing list, from what I can see at RecentChanges. I think that a professional could question the quality and accuracy of some Wikipedia articles... or could write something better, from scratch. This way, the forest hides the trees... there is too much "noise" on the site it is hard to find the really original (written for this site) information that is not a stub. A new user would have a hard time (like me) trying to find which content is REALLY written in here and not in Wikipedia. It is an artificial way to enlarge a wiki... For instance, imagine I am interested in Cognitive science. I go there and what do I find? A copy of the Wikipedia article. And if I check the links from the same paragraph, I get the same. What would I gain, if I have already read those at Wikipedia? What does this wiki add? This is a real question. I want to know the resources this wiki has created (not copied) specifically for that broad topic, if any.
- And that is only one topic. I am completely lost on this site since I cannot find the created content. And I guess other new users and even professionals would have the same problem. If you expect professionals to come to this site, there should be a way to find actual Psychology Wiki content and not Wikipedia's. That way, it would be better if those professionals go and edit directly to Wikipedia if they want to enlarge the Wikipedia copies. Well, I know Wiki encourages copying from Wikipedia... but usually for small wikis, in the beginning stage. I wonder if they had 14.000 copies in mind. That's in case anyone bothers about quality in a wiki that purports to be professional but from what I have seen the professionalism lies on Wikipedia... until I receive a list of original articles and not mere copies.
- I had always wondered why this wiki was one of the biggest at Wikia and voila, Wikipedia is the real wiki behind this ton of articles. Only 44% of this site is supposed to be written here. I wonder if professionals would be attracted to such a copycat site... Well, maybe the 11.000 who are supposedly not are good articles. So, it would be better if Proxima writes her article and Wikipedia and then someone copies it here, right? Well, I understand what you say about references, if this wiki pretends to be of academic and scientific nature. There should be a warning somewhere on the wiki, saying to people that only psychologists or experts in the field can write in here or that amateurs should write in such a way that it looks like an academic paper. Remember that Wikia is targeted for amateurs, so it should be clearly noted that this wiki is not. Also, warning not to put original research but just citing what others have discovered and studied. It could help prevent these misunderstandings.
- You make a good point here too and I will try to make it clearer on the Main Page. I think the amateur/professional distinction is a critical one Dr Joe Kiff 09:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
P.S. In any case, excuse me if this seems a bit out of context or if I sound conflictive. I am just expressing my ideas about this. It's just that I had watched this wiki for months and I cannot understand why so many Wikipedia stuff in here. Just have in mind that all that bunch of Wikipedia could scare away users. As it did to me, when I planned to collaborate... or at least read something different to Wikipedia, months ago. This is one of the cases when big is small, from a Systems Theory point of view. I must go back to real publications, books, for instance. Maybe I expected too much from such a huge wiki. --Davinci - talk 20:25, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- No you make absolutely the right points and the dificulties you raise are the consequences of the strategy we have adopted. In setting out, we had the idea that knowledge within the discipline has a structure and by using the articles from wikipedia as placeholders we are now at the point of aligning the material to the APA thesaurus as the first step. In doing this we can demonstrate to the profession that we can develop and manage the site with limited interference and that the technology is here to develop a comprehensive reliable statement of the current state of knowledge in all areas of the discipline where there is significant literature. In doing this we can further conceptually map the science. Having done this digitally we believe it will open up new possibilities for managing information in the science and it will provide a framework for further developments. This all hinges now on the professional societies taking up the challenge to coordinate contributions and develop a system of peer review to improve and approve the content. We are at the point of opening negotiations with the British Psychological Society. Perhaps we have not made it clear enough that conceptually this is only an initial draft of the site. Importing from Wikipedia gives temporary meat to the bones, enables later contributors to understand which links are available, it enables us to convey our ideas about the knowledge structure, the possible popularity and need for the site (we will be visited by over 2 million users this year) and to try to overcome the prejudice against the technology amongst the academic community. I want to say to that I appreciate that much of the information on Wikipedia in our area is of use and to that degree there is no need to reinvent the wheel, but obviously a coordinate professionally organised approach will improve it substantially. We are playing a long game here and it will take time to see if our strategy will work. Please do contribute if you can maintain academic standards Dr Joe Kiff 08:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Now my thoughts are clear. I will begin reading the site now and see if I can help. --Davinci - talk 12:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] cogntion
Hello,
can anyone give me some ideas of method to treat patients that having cognitive or perceptual diffculties.
You can try to look at CBT - cognitive behavior therapy and see if you like it, also it matter what kind of cognitive disorder the person has.
let me know if you like the idea--69.114.229.43 03:53, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
