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Joe Kiff - Lifeartist and Tom Michael - Mostly Zen met on Friday 28th July to discuss the Psychology Wiki.

We live quite close to each other, by random chance, in Birmingham and Dudley, West Midlands, in the UK. If other contributors would like to meet in person (and live close by) then perhaps this can be arranged. In the meantime, use either IRC (chatrooms) or MSN messenger (see our user pages for details).


MeetingEdit

Preparing for HarvardEdit

  • Mission statement - This is now finished! See Our Vision.
    • We may add some more Wiki-links to direct people to specialist information pages, as and when they are written.
    • We still need to do lots of work on the Details section of this page.
  • Questions for Gil and the team
    • What are the plans for expanding and upgrading the hardware.
      • Issues about server speed and backup.
    • What are the plans for duplicating the site on servers in another country?
    • Whats been the Search Engine advice been?
      • Best thing we can do is exchange links with highly ranked psychology sites.
    • Whats the business plan?
      • Whats the strategic vision?
      • Whats happening with branding?
      • Marketing?
    • How does the advertising work?
      • Can we get more control?
      • Difference between wikia advertising and google advertising?
      • Does Wikia want to handle it in the longrun?
  • What's best for us? (advertising)
    • Relevant adverts, no "free essays here" type ads, any way to screen these?
  • Can they set up pages that keep us up to date with whats going on?
    • Ask Angela if Wikia can have a daily news page...
    • Sannse is working on The Daily Edit, a cross Wiki newspaper type of thing
  • Talk to them about becoming academic publisher. This is our unique selling proposition to the profession and the grey suits. We offer a way of making the knowledge base free.
  • For this we would need:
    • Many contributors with Credentials for Peer Reviewing articles
    • Contributors prepared to peer review for no salary
    • Publish articles as pdfs.
    • More bandwidth
    • Clear up existing copyright issues
  • Remember that Wikia can help us with PR, legal issues, copyright and plagiarism issues should they arise.

Technical questionsEdit

  • Search engine ranking - 3 best things to do
    • Include lots of rich key terms text, the Wiki should do this automatically.
    • Link exchange (we link you if you link us) with lots of high ranked sites.
    • Allow Google software to build a map of the internal site.
  • Upgrading search facility
    • Can the search facility search for Text in articles, like on Wikipedia? It appears not at present.
    • Build lots of redirects to help people to find relevant pages.
  • Whats the actual limit to the size of a wiki from a technical point of view?
  • Exploring the potential of the software:
    • Categories to build our Index for us See forum post on Sorting out the Cats
    • Using New IRC channel for live communication. You'll need to educate me on this. Joe
    • Using Forums for general discussion about whole project, and discussion pages for individual things
    • Using BOTS to do much of the cleaning/template structuring - I need updating as to what is available

Internet based Publicity campaignEdit

  • Blogs - We need personal emails; personal email is better than spam. These people are basically journalists, so rather than try to sell the Wiki to them, I will just link them, explaining why i thought they'd be interested and that if they think its good, please link to US and talk about us on their blog. Mostly Zen Baby tao (talk)
  • Forums - As Above
  • Psy Web Pages - As Above

Local work with Uni courses/student Socs/advertising/getting curriculum up - I'll do this for Newman as a test run. Mostly Zen Baby tao (talk)

Structuring the wikiEdit

  • Basic structure is getting there.
    • New Navigation Templates - Done, but Job Queue gone up to 33,000!
    • New Category structure -
      • Top Levels nearly all done and linked
      • structure below needs A LOT OF WORK
      • Need an article on structuring the Wiki/Categorising the Wiki
  • How to improve the look of the pages?
    • Make sure new users know about user preferences.
  • How to improve link pages? Working links into text? Chapter headings?
  • Some of our conventions are not clear
    • Page titles Capital letter on first word only unless proper name.
    • Use of page templates for bibliography etc
    • Use of navigation templates

Recruiting new editorsEdit

From wikipedia and online to start with I'd imagine. We need to think longer term though. I'd imagine we may have about 25 solid contributors by the end of the first year, with about 200 occasional contributors. After we have this, we have more of a basis to branch out and improve the project.

    • Inviting prominent names to edit particula areas. Baddeley and memory. He is public about being interested in making the science public and is influential at the hard science end.
    • Contact particular societies and organisations. Eg MBTI, NLP, Tavistock Clinic people etc asking them to put up the evidence available for their theories and techniques.
    • Following Jaywins tactic of approaching people whop have written interesting papers. I would like to see his emails.

Any questions, ask Mostly Zen Baby tao (talk) or User:Lifeartist but be aware that Lifeartist is on holiday for 2 weeks from this date.

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